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		<title>By: payday loans</title>
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		<dc:creator>payday loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 04:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author of reports.rrgroupllc.com has written an excellent article. You have made your point and there is not much to argue about. It is like the following universal truth that you can not argue with: truth is always truthing itself with every new thought or creation Thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author of reports.rrgroupllc.com has written an excellent article. You have made your point and there is not much to argue about. It is like the following universal truth that you can not argue with: truth is always truthing itself with every new thought or creation Thanks for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 08:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You also point out that I did not factor in the decline in CDN customer pricing which is correct, however for a truly comparitive view the wholesale cost of bandwidth for CDN’s has also dropped dramtically from their 2003 level’s, which in some sense would give Limelight an advantage in this report when comparing todays bandwidth costs v’s the costs in 2003.&quot;

Uhh, No it wouldn&#039;t. The only thing you have demonstrated here is your complete lack of knowledge on this topic. Wholesale bandwidth prices would have a negligible effect on either Limelight or Akamai, but would have a bigger effect on Akamai. Do you even know what peering is? Peering completely bypasses wholesale bandwidth. Limelight claims about 90% of their traffic goes over peering. That means 90% of their bandwidth usage has nothing to due with wholesale bandwidth. Even if that were not the case, bandwidth would still be a miniscule percentage of either of their costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You also point out that I did not factor in the decline in CDN customer pricing which is correct, however for a truly comparitive view the wholesale cost of bandwidth for CDN’s has also dropped dramtically from their 2003 level’s, which in some sense would give Limelight an advantage in this report when comparing todays bandwidth costs v’s the costs in 2003.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uhh, No it wouldn&#8217;t. The only thing you have demonstrated here is your complete lack of knowledge on this topic. Wholesale bandwidth prices would have a negligible effect on either Limelight or Akamai, but would have a bigger effect on Akamai. Do you even know what peering is? Peering completely bypasses wholesale bandwidth. Limelight claims about 90% of their traffic goes over peering. That means 90% of their bandwidth usage has nothing to due with wholesale bandwidth. Even if that were not the case, bandwidth would still be a miniscule percentage of either of their costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Pharmacy Technician</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pharmacy Technician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post &amp; nice blog. I love both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post &amp; nice blog. I love both.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Steenbergen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Steenbergen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I actually wrote PeeringDB, so it&#039;s always interesting to see people using it for research and other similar purposes, but I don&#039;t think you&#039;re doing it correctly in this case. Public peering is only a small part of the picture of any serious networks&#039; interconnectivity. Due to the relatively high cost is typically reserved only for peering with a &quot;large number of small networks&quot; who individually wouldn&#039;t be large enough to justify dedicated circuits. You really can&#039;t draw any conclusions from the data you&#039;re looking at other than &quot;which network has more public peering&quot;.

As far as Limelight vs Akamai, I think the bottom line can best be summarized as follows. Limelight is really good at delivering bulk bits for cheap in the biggest locations (North America, Western Europe, the most well connected parts of Asia, etc). Akamai is better at delivering bits to every possible destination, but costs significantly more to do so. Realistically there is a time and a place for both services, and a smart customer will know how to make the most effective use of their options for the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I actually wrote PeeringDB, so it&#8217;s always interesting to see people using it for research and other similar purposes, but I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re doing it correctly in this case. Public peering is only a small part of the picture of any serious networks&#8217; interconnectivity. Due to the relatively high cost is typically reserved only for peering with a &#8220;large number of small networks&#8221; who individually wouldn&#8217;t be large enough to justify dedicated circuits. You really can&#8217;t draw any conclusions from the data you&#8217;re looking at other than &#8220;which network has more public peering&#8221;.</p>
<p>As far as Limelight vs Akamai, I think the bottom line can best be summarized as follows. Limelight is really good at delivering bulk bits for cheap in the biggest locations (North America, Western Europe, the most well connected parts of Asia, etc). Akamai is better at delivering bits to every possible destination, but costs significantly more to do so. Realistically there is a time and a place for both services, and a smart customer will know how to make the most effective use of their options for the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, 

You bring up some interesting points. Perhaps I am &quot;old school&quot; in nature and believe that the proof point in any technology should be demonstrated in financial efficiencies for that company and ultimately fisal return to its shareholders.

I believe you are correct in your statement that Akamai continues to have a sustained market advantage over Limelight due to its scale, diversified high margin revenue product services. 

You also point out that I did not factor in the decline in CDN customer pricing which is correct, however for a truly comparitive view the wholesale cost of bandwidth for CDN&#039;s has also dropped dramtically from their 2003 level&#039;s, which in some sense would give Limelight an advantage in this report when comparing todays bandwidth costs v&#039;s the costs in 2003.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, </p>
<p>You bring up some interesting points. Perhaps I am &#8220;old school&#8221; in nature and believe that the proof point in any technology should be demonstrated in financial efficiencies for that company and ultimately fisal return to its shareholders.</p>
<p>I believe you are correct in your statement that Akamai continues to have a sustained market advantage over Limelight due to its scale, diversified high margin revenue product services. </p>
<p>You also point out that I did not factor in the decline in CDN customer pricing which is correct, however for a truly comparitive view the wholesale cost of bandwidth for CDN&#8217;s has also dropped dramtically from their 2003 level&#8217;s, which in some sense would give Limelight an advantage in this report when comparing todays bandwidth costs v&#8217;s the costs in 2003.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Rayburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Rayburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post makes no sense. You&#039;re asking if Limelight&#039;s assertion that they have a more &quot;technically&quot; efficient CDN over Akamai is accurate, but you&#039;re trying to answer a technical question, with financial data.

Limelight&#039;s CDN is not more efficient than Akamai&#039;s when it comes to cost as the CDN business is all about economics of scale, and today Akamai has a lower cost due to that scale. But the biggest point you are completely missing is that Akamai&#039;s been able to diversify their revenue and network and gets half of their revenue from very high-margin products, something Limelight does not have today. Limelight is working hard to add more value add services, but today, that revenue does not even make up 10% of their overall revenue.

Nothing in this post takes into account the market price for CDN services from when Limelight started their CDN versus when Akamai got into the video delivery space. No one ever seems to remember that Akamai did not build their CDN for video/large object initially, they acquired InterVU in 2000 to get into this space. Nothing wrong with that, but you can&#039;t compare the two.

If you&#039;re going to compare the two companies, you can ONLY compare their video delivery services one to the other. You can&#039;t compare the companies as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post makes no sense. You&#8217;re asking if Limelight&#8217;s assertion that they have a more &#8220;technically&#8221; efficient CDN over Akamai is accurate, but you&#8217;re trying to answer a technical question, with financial data.</p>
<p>Limelight&#8217;s CDN is not more efficient than Akamai&#8217;s when it comes to cost as the CDN business is all about economics of scale, and today Akamai has a lower cost due to that scale. But the biggest point you are completely missing is that Akamai&#8217;s been able to diversify their revenue and network and gets half of their revenue from very high-margin products, something Limelight does not have today. Limelight is working hard to add more value add services, but today, that revenue does not even make up 10% of their overall revenue.</p>
<p>Nothing in this post takes into account the market price for CDN services from when Limelight started their CDN versus when Akamai got into the video delivery space. No one ever seems to remember that Akamai did not build their CDN for video/large object initially, they acquired InterVU in 2000 to get into this space. Nothing wrong with that, but you can&#8217;t compare the two.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to compare the two companies, you can ONLY compare their video delivery services one to the other. You can&#8217;t compare the companies as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Does Limelight have a cost advantage over Akamai ? &#124; Content Delivery Network Blog &#124; CDN Evangelist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Does Limelight have a cost advantage over Akamai ? &#124; Content Delivery Network Blog &#124; CDN Evangelist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tony Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess one question not answered is the market growth. It may be that both companies will struggle to provide enough bandwidth in which case its not a win-lose but a win-win? On the location front, I think Akamai has it right, I have spent many years in technology and its better to have a lot of ways to deliver than one fast way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess one question not answered is the market growth. It may be that both companies will struggle to provide enough bandwidth in which case its not a win-lose but a win-win? On the location front, I think Akamai has it right, I have spent many years in technology and its better to have a lot of ways to deliver than one fast way.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two major issues with the two graphs presented.


1.  First graph re: revenue margins.  There is zero consideration for 
price compression here.  What this graph shows is that at 2003 prices 
Akamai got more profit than LL does at 2009 prices.  Duh!

2.  The second graph re: peering.  Yes, Akamai has more PUBLIC peering. 
  You&#039;ll notice the number at the bottom states Limelight&#039;s public 
peering as 633Gbps.  In total, Limelight has 3,000 Gbps (3Tbps), so they have accounted for just over 1/6 of the network and use it to show a 
comparison.

The report is flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two major issues with the two graphs presented.</p>
<p>1.  First graph re: revenue margins.  There is zero consideration for<br />
price compression here.  What this graph shows is that at 2003 prices<br />
Akamai got more profit than LL does at 2009 prices.  Duh!</p>
<p>2.  The second graph re: peering.  Yes, Akamai has more PUBLIC peering.<br />
  You&#8217;ll notice the number at the bottom states Limelight&#8217;s public<br />
peering as 633Gbps.  In total, Limelight has 3,000 Gbps (3Tbps), so they have accounted for just over 1/6 of the network and use it to show a<br />
comparison.</p>
<p>The report is flawed.</p>
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